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deTino
08.05.2005, 14:43
hoi zäme

hm also ich han no nie öppis in richtig dj gmacht, dänke aber das isch no es spannends gebiet. jetz hani mer mal überleid eventuell turtables z chaufe zum das mal chli usprobiere...
wie gsed das so us uf was muesmer luege, was sind gueti standarts und was isch überflüssig als absolute neuling? bin echt über jedi info froh, au links usw. han bis jetz würkli gar kei ahnig.
also ja wener mal ziit hend chönder ja was dezue säge wär cool! merci schomal

de tino

scheinwerfer
08.05.2005, 15:00
aso ich wür ned grad tables chaufe (usser du heesch xtrem vorig geld:D)
frög eifach mal en kolleg wo het öb mal anedörfsch und öber der paar sache zeigt, wel wenn kei ahnig hesch machsch das züÜg zimli schnell kaputt... und wenn kein kolleg mit tables hesch denn frögsch mal imne musiggschäft öbs eine hend wo dir das chan zeige oder so. gib eifach ned uuf wenn ned grad was finsch, wel susch chasch immerna eifach chaufe und villich wirds da scho son crack ha wo der alles erchlärt, oder de meister google git uf alles antwort.

vil spass

deTino
08.05.2005, 17:31
ja klar würi mer ned grad die heftigste chaufe.. so hald chli was billigs über kollege occassion oder sowas. soviel stutz hed de tino scho ned ;)
jo und bi google findi eifach nüd wos chli schön zämegfasst isch oder so. aber merci trotzdem!

Escobar
08.05.2005, 17:35
Original geschrieben von scheinwerfer
aso ich wür ned grad tables chaufe (usser du heesch xtrem vorig geld:D)
frög eifach mal en kolleg wo het öb mal anedörfsch und öber der paar sache zeigt, wel wenn kei ahnig hesch machsch das züÜg zimli schnell kaputt... und wenn kein kolleg mit tables hesch denn frögsch mal imne musiggschäft öbs eine hend wo dir das chan zeige oder so. gib eifach ned uuf wenn ned grad was finsch, wel susch chasch immerna eifach chaufe und villich wirds da scho son crack ha wo der alles erchlärt, oder de meister google git uf alles antwort.

vil spass

crack?? crack?? was? wo? here drmit!

scheinwerfer
08.05.2005, 17:37
so, e chli e iileitig was so bim chauf musch wüsse, hoffe du chasch englisch :D

Belt driven v. Direct drive… what’s the difference?

There are two basic designs for the operation of the platter; belt driven and direct drive.

Belt driven turntables have the actual motor that spins the platter (the part you put the record on) offset from the center of the platter, and a belt (often nothing more than a big rubber band) is looped around a shaft extending from the motor, and connects to the bottom of the platter.

Direct drive is a bit different setup. The motor is under the platter (usually the spindle, the “needle” on the center of the platter, is part of the motor), and directly rotates the spindle and platter. Some tables (like the Technic SL1200s, and Numark TTX1) have a hefty magnet under the platter, and another on the motor. This is designed to increase torque, and response when the motor starts spinning. Others (like the Stanton STR8 Series) rely on the weight of the platter resting on the spindle to turn the platter. Effective, but it makes the platter easy to stop.

What does this all mean to a DJ? Well, as a DJ, you’re going to want the most accurate equipment you can buy. Belt driven table will not give you this accuracy, no matter how good the manufacturer boasts about it, and how much it costs. These decks are wonderful for a listening station, but please do not purchase a belt driven table, even if you are just starting out.

So, why do some tables cost so much?

Ahh... good question. When you’re digging around on www.pssl.com, or any of the other millions of DJ reseller sites out there, you will find a plethora of brands, models, makes, and variants. This can be very overwhelming for the first time buyer. Some cost $99, some cost up to $799. What’s the deal!?

Generally speaking, you get what you pay for. I am not going to try to push any specific brand or model in this tutorial, but I will give some facts that will be helpful in your purchases. The cheaper decks usually are belt driven, which we have decided we want to try to stay away from. These are the decks that are usually around 100-200 bucks a pop. Next on the price list, you have your mid-level decks. These usually are direct drive, but have a lower power motor (we will get into power specifics a bit later). These run around 200-300 per deck. Last, you have your higher end models. They consist of higher torque motors, more features, and are generally the better decks to purchase. These decks run in price from around 300 dollars and up. Remember though, you don’t necessarily need to buy the most expensive deck on the market.

What about torque and a turntable?

Different turntables have different motors, and different torque outputs. The general idea in a turntable for a DJ is the more torque the better. If you plan on doing any scratching or fancy turntablism, high torque is a must. If you are interested in any deck in specific, go hit their website. Most of them list all the technical info regarding their products. On a side note, you may also hear the terms “wow” and “flutter” fly around from time to time. Wow and flutter is “Instantaneous variations in the rotational speed of the turntable platter.” In easier to understand terms, the higher the wow and flutter, the less accurate your turntable is going to be.

What does that big fader on the side of the turntable do?

That is the pitch control. All it really does is speed up and slow down the motor, thus speeding up and slowing down your record. This is used to match your records to the same speed so you can mix. Some turntables have different speeds available. Most all have the standard +/- 8%, and some have an optional +/- 16%.

So why do some turntables come with a straight arm, and some a curved one?

These different tonearms are designed for different applications.

The curved arm (or S-arm) is set up so the grooves in the record will “pull” the needle across the surface of the record, twords the center of the record. This is the more traditional style, so to say. S shaped arms wear records the least, and have the best sound quality.

The straight arm is used in scratching applications. The nature of the straight arm helps reduce skipping when scratching, but the tradeoff is increased record wear, and lower sound quality.

There are the basics of what you need to know for a turntable. Take all these specs and features into account when you’re making your decision on what to get. A substandard setup can make you think you are not performing at the level you want, and thus you may quit all together.

scheinwerfer
08.05.2005, 19:10
und wenn mal wetsch skills gseh ziehn der da (http://www.beastieboys.com/video.php) de video "triple trouble" und irgendwenn teilt sich sbild uuf und gsehsch obe rechts de dj uuhuere hert skille:D vil spass

Lukaz
08.05.2005, 20:03
OOOOU, die derbe beastie boys

G.U.R.U
08.05.2005, 20:30
geisch uf elevator.de het nid schlächti tips

peace

deTino
09.05.2005, 18:35
Original geschrieben von scheinwerfer
so, e chli e iileitig was so bim chauf musch wüsse, hoffe du chasch englisch :D

Belt driven v. Direct drive… what’s the difference?

There are two basic designs for the operation of the platter; belt driven and direct drive.

Belt driven turntables have the actual motor that spins the platter (the part you put the record on) offset from the center of the platter, and a belt (often nothing more than a big rubber band) is looped around a shaft extending from the motor, and connects to the bottom of the platter.

Direct drive is a bit different setup. The motor is under the platter (usually the spindle, the “needle” on the center of the platter, is part of the motor), and directly rotates the spindle and platter. Some tables (like the Technic SL1200s, and Numark TTX1) have a hefty magnet under the platter, and another on the motor. This is designed to increase torque, and response when the motor starts spinning. Others (like the Stanton STR8 Series) rely on the weight of the platter resting on the spindle to turn the platter. Effective, but it makes the platter easy to stop.

What does this all mean to a DJ? Well, as a DJ, you’re going to want the most accurate equipment you can buy. Belt driven table will not give you this accuracy, no matter how good the manufacturer boasts about it, and how much it costs. These decks are wonderful for a listening station, but please do not purchase a belt driven table, even if you are just starting out.

So, why do some tables cost so much?

Ahh... good question. When you’re digging around on www.pssl.com, or any of the other millions of DJ reseller sites out there, you will find a plethora of brands, models, makes, and variants. This can be very overwhelming for the first time buyer. Some cost $99, some cost up to $799. What’s the deal!?

Generally speaking, you get what you pay for. I am not going to try to push any specific brand or model in this tutorial, but I will give some facts that will be helpful in your purchases. The cheaper decks usually are belt driven, which we have decided we want to try to stay away from. These are the decks that are usually around 100-200 bucks a pop. Next on the price list, you have your mid-level decks. These usually are direct drive, but have a lower power motor (we will get into power specifics a bit later). These run around 200-300 per deck. Last, you have your higher end models. They consist of higher torque motors, more features, and are generally the better decks to purchase. These decks run in price from around 300 dollars and up. Remember though, you don’t necessarily need to buy the most expensive deck on the market.

What about torque and a turntable?

Different turntables have different motors, and different torque outputs. The general idea in a turntable for a DJ is the more torque the better. If you plan on doing any scratching or fancy turntablism, high torque is a must. If you are interested in any deck in specific, go hit their website. Most of them list all the technical info regarding their products. On a side note, you may also hear the terms “wow” and “flutter” fly around from time to time. Wow and flutter is “Instantaneous variations in the rotational speed of the turntable platter.” In easier to understand terms, the higher the wow and flutter, the less accurate your turntable is going to be.

What does that big fader on the side of the turntable do?

That is the pitch control. All it really does is speed up and slow down the motor, thus speeding up and slowing down your record. This is used to match your records to the same speed so you can mix. Some turntables have different speeds available. Most all have the standard +/- 8%, and some have an optional +/- 16%.

So why do some turntables come with a straight arm, and some a curved one?

These different tonearms are designed for different applications.

The curved arm (or S-arm) is set up so the grooves in the record will “pull” the needle across the surface of the record, twords the center of the record. This is the more traditional style, so to say. S shaped arms wear records the least, and have the best sound quality.

The straight arm is used in scratching applications. The nature of the straight arm helps reduce skipping when scratching, but the tradeoff is increased record wear, and lower sound quality.

There are the basics of what you need to know for a turntable. Take all these specs and features into account when you’re making your decision on what to get. A substandard setup can make you think you are not performing at the level you want, and thus you may quit all together.

jo genau sowas suechi
sehr edel schomal merci!

und wie gseds so us mit konkrete vorschläg für plattespiler?

nomal merci !

scheinwerfer
09.05.2005, 18:52
-> djing -> erste hilfe -> battledecks, der ultimative einkaufsführer

"mach d'auge uuf lappi" hends mer immer gseit :D

OOOOU, die derbe Beastie Boys
wenns als provokation gmeint isch, ich find de sound an sich au ned so guet aber de DJ hets scho herter im griff...

prophet
09.05.2005, 19:17
chaufsch der zwei mk5 en ecler hak 360 und wenns der noch eme halbe johr verleidet isch chauf ders occassion ab :D

nei chlini hilf zum afange au uf djbattle.net (http://www.djbattle.net/scratchschool.php)

deTino
10.05.2005, 22:35
Original geschrieben von scheinwerfer
-> djing -> erste hilfe -> battledecks, der ultimative einkaufsführer

"mach d'auge uuf lappi" hends mer immer gseit :D


wenns als provokation gmeint isch, ich find de sound an sich au ned so guet aber de DJ hets scho herter im griff...

mitm lappi isch so oder so rächt,
aber das wo du det zitiersch isch doch battleMixer? und ich suech doch tischli (tables) aber ebe ich wett mal ned z blöd tue, für das bini no z unwüssend ;)